Monday, June 24, 2013

Salary

A couple of weeks ago, we had fun telling how much debt we were in.

Now here's another question I bet everyone is interested to hear the answer to:

What's your salary? (and in what field?) Obviously, feel free to answer anonymously.

I have to ask, because a colleague of mine recently got offered a physician job at 90K and I was like whoa.

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  1. 90k as an attending???

    I'm a PGY-2 in NYC. 58K.

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  2. Were you like, whoa, that's really low? Is that a base salary? With incentive bonuses based on RVUs? Because otherwise, that seems really low for an attending! NPs and PAs, depending on their specialty, can make at least that....

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    1. There may have been a stipend of $20-30,000K on top of that.

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    2. Still seems low to me....

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    3. That's why he turned it down.

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    4. full time? 90k for part-time + incentive bonus based on RVUs could be reasonable.

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  3. Pharmacist, 135K Plus bonus that adds 25k to 265K per year (last year got the full bonus, looks like bonus this year will be a lot less, they "reset" the objectives)


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    1. Can't comprehend the huge bonuses, while your technicians get nothing, except cutting our hours. I understand you hold all the weight of everything that happens in the phcy, but we work out butts off daily too. I am a CPhT with 12 years experience and I earn approx. $36K.

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    2. hmmm well PharmD equals doctorate, CPhT is usually associates.
      Long hours or not, you really have no room to bitch! As a MD friend once told me about RN's bitching about doctors...If you want to fly the plane and get the big paycheck then go to flight school and do it, otherwise go sit your ass back in coach with your can of soda and peanuts!

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    3. I make about the same, but don't get the bonuses (I work in a hospital).

      Something the tech doesn't think about, I also had $70,000 in student loans when I graduated. I know that's nothing over a career, but pharmacy techs are very well paid for what education is required. We have certified techs who have high school degrees. It's a clean, relatively easy job compared to some others that require similiar education. We also pay for the certification tests and educational materials, as do most retail pharmacies I know.

      To me, it's like a PCP or even a nurse asking to be compensated the same as a physician. They work just as hard, even harder in many cases, but don't take the same risks or go through the same educational process.

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  4. Attorney, midwest, 120K, and found out as of Friday I won't be getting a raise this year. Bastards. I am eligible for a production bonus (10K per 100 hours worked over minimum requirement) but that's tough to do with two small children. No SL debt. I guess I'm not shocked by that number but I'm really bitter right now.

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  5. Supervisor of front desk staff at multiple, clinical locations = $46K (and I have a Masters degree). Ugh.

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  6. Currently a stay-at-home mom, but going to school for pre-med, husband (a licensed counselor) makes a measley $34K. It SUCKS.

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    1. That is why I always say with my Bachelors of Science psychology degree is is just that - B S . So I understand what you mean by your statement. :( So, now after all these years I am going back to school again. Hopefully a little wiser after taking a LLLLOOONNGG sabbatical. I hope I am making a better choice this time around in medicine and become a physician assistant. That is if I can be accepted into a program (being so competitive).

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  7. Forensic Pathologist: $160K

    Student Loan Debt: $240K, but currently down to $209K (I had to start paying exactly 2 years ago and have paid $31K thus far. Student loans suck.)

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    1. Now that is interesting as I have a minor in forensics. I am a licensed private investigator. I wish I could pick your brain. :-(

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    2. You could, but you'll have to wait until they're dead!
      Sorry, I couldn't resist. =)

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  8. Fifth year medical student => 0$

    xD

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    1. More like -250K, but hey at least you're almost there.

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  9. Academic researcher with 20 years experience, masters level, $50K.

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  10. Registered Nurse - $55,000; Student Loan debt $26,000

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  11. Research analyst, a year out of my masters: $57k. No student loans.

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  12. ED RN in the west - base salary $45k.
    Working 50 hours/week, every week I make closer to $75k.

    Base salary when I worked on the east coast was $60k.

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  13. Private practice psychiatrist, MD with advanced certification, seeing patients 3 days a week plus 1/2 day a week teaching - $50K - I buy my own benefit (health care, retirement) out of this.

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    1. $50K a year?!?

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    2. That is it? What is your specialty and where are you if you do not mind me asking That does not seem right at all. I know people here (USA) with just a masters getting more than that.

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  14. Special education teacher with 10 years experience- $38,600. No student loan debt.

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  15. I'm an ICU RN in so Cal, I took home $70K last year without working any overtime. I would get paid more at a private hospital because ICU requires additional training and is considered a speciality. I have $20K in school debt

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  16. PGY-1 $50,000 with $310,000 debt.

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  17. I'm a computer system administrator. My last paid position (5 yrs ago), with 20 yrs of experience, paid $60k.

    I live on SSDI now, the government sends me just under $19k/yr ($20k/yr before they remove the basic Medicare cost.)

    I have no student loan debt but do have a lot of personal debt.

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  18. hospital based clinical pharmacist 108k working > 10 yrs have paid loans down to 40k

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  19. elevator industry service dispatcher. 39k/year.
    I have a bachelor's and masters but they aren't required. No student loan debt.

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  20. Family doc doing urgent care in Midwest 80% time=$130,000. 15+ years out of medical school and didn't extend the term of my loans so $0 educational debt as of last fall. Woo-hoo!

    It takes a long time to finally feel like you can start to get ahead.

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  21. Veterinarian, part time. Salary of 50K with production bonus as well. Graduated with 157K in loans (all from vet school). If I keep throwing every extra penny to my loans I may get them out of the way in 12 years.

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  22. LPN doing home health. I am salaried at $43,500 + $0.51/mile + $60 mth for cell phone allowance. I usually only work between 3-6 hrs a day. I love the flexibility of my job and can schedule things the way I want which I need with 4 kids. I have been an LPN for 13 yrs and paid cash for my school so no debt. My husband is a field trainer (non-medical) and grosses about $70k.

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  23. Registered Respiratory Therapist 1 year experience, 45k and not quite 20k in student loans.

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  24. Veterinarian, new grad, $35/hour which works out to about 73K at full-time, but I'm starting out at part-time for now so it's more like 43K. 216K in student loans, all from vet school.

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    1. why part time to start out?

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    2. Tough job market, especially in my town. I would have moved but got an offer from a fantastic practice for part-time work with the plan of expanding to full-time over the next few months.

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  25. Tenured professor (PhD, humanities) in the midwest. 46K.

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  26. Private practice neurosurgeon, full time - with bonuses make about 700k, no student loan debt

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    1. More power do you! It is well deserved as Fizzy says.

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    2. Pediatrics 80% time=140K. 250K loan debt.

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  27. military pediatrician, 87k plus benefits, free housing, and utilities. 150k in debt.

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  28. 50k Day Program & Residential Admin./ 25K student loan Masters.
    hubby 75K, system admin for a school +30k private client/ 0 student loans. Could double his salary by going corporate but love the work hours with the school.

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  29. Pediatric subspecialist (academic) on West Coast, $130K. 10 years out of med school, still have close to $90K in loans.
    Interesting thread...

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  30. Medical student, student debt: 35k

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  31. Hospital RN in Pennsylvania with an associates degree, made 50k last year with minimal overtime, no student debt.

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  32. Writer/editor/project manager @51k per year (Cdn). Student debt paid off many years ago. It was about $12k. Husband is professional engineer manager earning about $110k with occasional bonuses. He did not have any student debt.

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  33. PGY1 Anesthesiology Resident - 49k

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    1. Is that right?

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    2. Yes, it is right. Also, I should mention 200k in student debt, 24 from undergrad, rest from med school

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    3. why wouldn't it be right? pgy1 general surgery michigan - $45,450

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    4. PGY3 in OB/GYN $53,000. $110,000 in student loans.

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  34. Special Education teacher in Midwest with 17 years experience, 40K. Husband is IT Admin. for an engineering firm downtown Chicago, 80K.
    No debt for either of us.

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  35. Animal Technician- $24,000/year working full time. No experience needed, no certificates or degree. I graduate this summer with my BS-Biology degree. No debt from school. I am happy were I work, but would like to make more money. Might move onto something else eventually. Was on track to become a Veterinarian, but O-chem killed that. Did pass it after 3 times, didn't want to let it stop me. In the end, I didn't like the amount of debt you gather in that field/ I don't want to move. : )

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    1. Damn O Chem! When I am ready to take that booger I am going to hire a tutor and do whatever I need to pass. I hate weed out classes like that. Everyone says you never use it in med school at all.

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    2. I transferred to another school to take it. Way better experience and I ended up being an O-chem tutor after I finished all 3 quarters of it. All in all a good experience. Just had to leave my school to do it. :(

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    3. Pet shop manager, 14 years, 40k. Plus holiday pay, vacation time, and medical insurance. I miss that job!
      Left that job 10 years ago to be a SAHM, now I get 33k (survivors benefits).
      No student debt, no personal debt. =)

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  36. Private practice psychiatrist, Michigan. 300k.

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    1. Good for you! :-) Reading all these health related salaries it makes me wonder what is going to happen when Obama Care finally kicks in. UGH :-( Needless to say I am not looking for to it.

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  37. Teaching - $54,000 in Alaska. Nine years experience credited and +18 graduate hours.

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  38. Acute care (mostly cardiopulmonary and vascular) physical therapist: 60k. I owe 50k in student loans from my doctorate (grants/scholarships covered undergrad).

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  39. Me - school psychologist - 52,000
    Husband - software engineer - 110,000
    No student debt for either of us (Husband dropped out of college)

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    1. How did he become an engineer then? Or are you allowed to call yourself an engineer in the US without a BESc and P.Eng? (I'm from Canada)

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    2. My dad is the same. He got a certification from a technical school in the 70s and has stayed on top of current advances.

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    3. Software engineer is not considered engineering, it is somewhat related to computer science. Engineering certification in the states is P.E., you can meet the requirements with some combination of edu + experience although usually need some sort of undergrad degree.

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    4. That's interesting. In Canada software engineering is still engineering - so you need your bachelor of eng, then a few years of work experience and you also have to write the PPE (an exam) before you are a Professional Engineer (P.Eng). Then you can actually use the title of "engineer".

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  40. My husband and I are both government attorneys in Hawaii, me 57K, him 60K. Paycuts and no raises for the last 3 years. Our student debt is 103K.

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  41. Me: ER RN with ADN (although I have a BA)- 40K part time (2 days/week)so I can be home with the kids.
    Hubby: Fire Department Captain - 95K with a Masters degree
    No debt at all.

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  42. PGY-1 OB/GYN - 50K
    Medical School Debt - 128K

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  43. pulmonary critical care attending NE academic setting 220K + bonus, no debt

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  44. Medical Laboratory Scientist, 7 years experience: 60K

    Took a roundabout way of getting to that career, so I actually have a total of 8 years of undergrad education. When all was said and done, 45K in debt, will be paid off in 2017.

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  45. clinical research specialist (read: paperwork) in academic health care, with BA, 70K. Graduated with 5K in loans but paid those off quickly.

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  46. PGY 3: 58k, 65K in debt.
    hubby: not working (house husband/ SAHD), 45K in school debt.

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  47. Almost PGY2 pathology resident...will make a whopping 51K in one week. Graduated w/192K in debt (not counting interest).

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    1. 51k a week? so you make 2.62 million a year? i'd call that whopping for sure. you'd pay off your debt in like a month or two...

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    2. The salary will go up to 51K a year on July 1, not 51K per week.

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  48. Part-time (3 days/week) outpatient Internal Med, $130K based plus quality bonuses and profit sharing (additional $10-40K per year).

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  49. PGY2 Internal Medicine residents: 56K per year with heavily subsidized health/life/Dental insurance. Fiance RN working FTE + lots of overtime last year made 68K, but will go down to probably 50K or so due to working part time this year. Me 280K in debt, her 100K in debt.

    Agree fun post.

    To the Psychiatrist making 50K, you should look for another job or demand a raise!!

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  50. I am a family nurse practitioner and have been for 3 years. I make a base of $95.000/year and then get a bonus of around 10-15K a year, depending on my patient volume. I see around 20-30 patients a day. My student loan debt is paid down to around 50K now, all of it accumulated to get my FNP as I had no undergraduate debt at all.

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  51. Please I am not being sarcastic at all. Please something explain to me, I just assumed once out of med school one can hopefully make more than someone with just a bachelors at least here in the US. Some of these salaries just don't seem right. Has the economy really AFFECTED everyone as bad as I am reading on here?

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    1. It's not the economy, you're just not nearly as valuable to a hospital straight out of medical school as you might think. Residency is where you really learn to be an effective physician, so the salary jump comes at the transition from resident to attending.

      New PGY2, 58K/year. Started with 46K in student loans, down to 22K after 1 year.

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  52. I am a dermatology physician assistant. Just graduated last year. I'm starting at 85K with 120K in loans.

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  53. I'm a veterinary technician. I have no debt from school (associate's degree, although I never finished my BS due to ochem like another tech above!) but I work for a university now so if I wanted to finish it would be on their dime.

    I make close to $35K/year.

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  54. Will start as general pediatrician after residency with salary of $175,000. I have $185,000 in med school debt.

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  55. Small animal veterinarian, 2010 grad who completed an internship (paid $26,000 for that year), now making $75,000 full time. $176,000 in student loans from vet school, plus $17,000 from undergrad.

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  56. Consultant - NYC - start off at $60K+bonus right after undergraduate with potential to move up to $350K after about 6-10yrs. Hours can vary wildly week to week from 40hrs to 100hrs.

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  57. Just finishing my 10th year as a Family Medicine Physician in the rural Midwest. Current salary is $225,000 plus production bonus. I finished residency w 125k in student loan debt, paid off a few yrs ago.

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  58. Just graduated and starting as a Civil Engineer-In-Training (how you are registered before you can get your professional license) at $45,000/yr

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  59. Veterinary Emergency and Critical Care Resident 29,000, 36k student debt

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    1. Holy crap! How is your debt that low??* All the residents I work with are in the multiple hundreds of thousands in debt, except for the non-USians who paid cash for school.

      *Obviously a rhetorical question, feel free to ignore. I'm just stunned.

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  60. I work at a Healthcare IT company in the midwest and make almost $60K. A lot of the people I started with are already making 70-80 but I haven't been that agressive about moving up since I'm planning on applying to medical school in the next few years. $18K in debt from a Masters degree I don't even really use. The Med school I'm looking at has a loan program that pays for tuition and a stipend while in school if you specialize in primary care and work in a rural part of the state when you are done with residency. I'm hoping that'll work out!

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  61. First year med student, 30K debt from undergrad and 11K from my first year. I worked for a year as a research tech, making 27K a year. My fiance is a grad student and has a 30K/year fellowship...so, that helps A LOT. It was rough working 50 hours a week and making less than a full time student though :/

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  62. ER Physician Assistant working in large trauma hospital in the southwest: 114,000/yr base plus some incentives and bonuses. Had 20k in debt after finishing PA school but paid it off in the first six months of working. I work 14 12hr shifts a month.

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  63. Specialist hospital pharmacist in the UK, with MSc (we do MPharm instead of DPharm to qualify), prescribing rights, 10 years experience. On £48k (about US$ 75k). No student debt (paid it off last year - about £18k when I graduated). No pay rise for the last two years, limited chances for promotion. Oh and that 48k includes oncall.

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  64. Academic hospitalist, California. $182,000/yr. Possible bonuses. No debt (worked before med school).

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  65. If I worked my current job (clerical/finance) full time year round, I would make $26k. I'll be part time during the school year, though, so I will make around half that this year. My husband should earn around $30k this year between his two jobs - vehicle accessory installation and courier service.

    Student debt will hit about $18k this year, but I'm not paying it yet. If I get into medical school, much of my ug debt will be forgiven when I graduate.

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  66. per-diem pediatrician working 2.5 days a week--making about 70K. No benefits. 75K in school debt--both undergrad and med school.

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  67. WOW.

    1st Year B.A/M.D

    $0 K.

    What would one do with 700K, I ask myself. Perhaps start a business or...an awesome non-profit. My mind, for the first time ever, comprehended how BIG that was.

    Everyone else, you just keep going at it! :D I hope I dont gather any debt....

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  68. Welding and materials engineer with PhD - 93K, 5 years experience, no debt. I work in Europe though, in the US it would be higher.

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  69. Anaesthetic Nurse (note, not nurse anaesthetist) - $65K, 3rd year. No student loans. Got to love $3,000/year for a nursing degree in Australia (and it is only 3 years!)

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  70. I'm just loving that we're all rocking the 'Anonymous' key...proud but not loud it seems!! I'm joining the anonymous blurry crowd...Farmer, 100K. Some of you have worked extremely hard for such varied reward, fascinating read; great idea for a post!

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  71. Retired printing press supervisor, made 60k year, now retired making 50K with three separate retirement benefits. The pay scale for you medical people is wack. What do you all plan to do about retiring?

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    1. Wack? As in, high debt + delayed payoff?

      Speaking for myself (still in residency), spouse and I live within our means, have both started IRAs even though it means we don't take nice vacations, and when I get done with residency we will save save save.

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  72. About to be a third year veterinary emergency and critical care resident on the west coast. $50K/y, debt is $250K. I pick up relief shifts elsewhere on my rare days off to be able to pay my rent each month.

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  73. PGY-1 surgery, 65k/year. 160k in student loans.

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    1. that's pretty good for PGY1, imo...

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  74. 65K as a PGY1 Surgery? Damn, I only get 51K

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  75. 18K, Advanced EMT (if you know what an EMT-I is, it's a newer version of that). The plus side is I have no debt.

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  76. Canadian salaries for residents are available on CaRMS.ca website. I'm finishing R2 in the richest province (until we waste all our oil of course), so maxing it out at 61k. In a week, 65k (Canadian dollars, obviously). Cost of living is higher and all that, but no complaints re:salary.

    I had $110k debt, then decided to be financially irresponsible and buy a car. $140k now.

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  77. ED attending, 3 years past PGY, Level 2 ED suburban SW USA (occasional call at our Level 1 site downtown). ~$180K + bonus of 30-60K based on RVUs (individual and collective). $160K student debt, down from $210K, I'm hitting that pretty hard.

    Looks like no bonus this year because management hired a bunch of physicians for a hospital that was supposed to be finished last month. They just broke ground...

    So right now people fighting over shifts, sending spouses back to work...

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  78. PGY2 in Australia (we don't join a specialist training program straight out, I'm on a second general year) my base rate is 65,000 but we get paid for overtime (above 40 hours in a week) so I Ill earn about $85,000

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    1. Wow, that is nice! Not in Canada...

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  79. PGY1 in Canada, so about $53,000 plus benefits and call stipends for this year.

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  80. Nutrition support/critical care/research dietitian, 20 years experience, MS + nutrition support certification, $87K; bring in another $7k/year as an adjunct professor, another $5k or so consulting. No debt.

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  81. 2nd year medical student in Caribbean = 110k student loan debt

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  82. UK (have translated £ to USD)
    As a Medical Registrar (equivalent to resident)I earn about $62k after tax.
    All other registrars in the UK in other specialties at the same grade of training earn the same.
    As a 1st year doctor you can expect to earn around $40k post tax.
    Consultants (attendings) earn between $90K and $120k post tax depending on their out-of-hours commitments and if they do teaching/managerial work.

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  83. emergency department pharmacist....4 years out of school, 2 years out of residency (37K during pgy1 in midwest, 47K during pgy2 in mid-atlantic) now making ~120K/yr; started at 200K in debt from school (6 years for a PharmD), now down to about 150K

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  84. Family physician in multispecialty group in the Southeast; 250k
    Graduated med school in 2000, just got student loan debt below 6 figures.

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  85. Pharmacist managing clinical/outpatient pharmacy 130k, paid of student loans last year

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  86. About to start as a neurologist, just out of residency/fellowship, at $220,000 plus RVU based bonuses, and $12000 yearly student loan repayment. Student loan debt is about $260,000.

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  87. Outpatient IM PA (primary care). 4 years out of school, $90k. i see patients 4 days a week....no call, no hospital. no RVU, performance bonuses (or equity at the practice). had my SL down to about 40k this year...rolled that into my house refinance so none currently.

    this is fascinating!

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  88. PGY 3 in Canada as of Monday, salary will go up to $63,230 from $59,608 before tax. Make 2-3K extra a year in call stipend. 200K debt from school.
    Hubby is police court officer, 73K before tax.
    Dad is aeronautical engineer designer, 175K before tax.

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  89. Did a state funded primary care med school program so graduated with about $60K in need school debt and minimal undergrad. I work family medicine with Ob, inpatient, and ECF care.

    About to change jobs from a rural community health clinic at $160K (four years after starting they finally are giving bonuses through some arcane formula we haven't been privy to) to a hospital owned practice at $212K plus bonuses (rvu based).
    Spouse is a PhD student so that income is inconsequential.

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  90. I showed this around work, yeah fascinating. (I'm ED doc above at about $185K).

    I found out that since they cut our hours one of our PA's took on another full time job and now pulls $200K. He works a little more than 40 hours a week, but he says it beats the shit out of sitting around trying to pick up the dregs of hours wondering if he is going to get enough to pay his car note. He just works the assigned schedule and doesn't worry.

    We also got a flyer from a new hospital soon to open in Vegas, offering $380K minimum base plus RVU and some other bonus, which is of course horseshit. Everyone who saw it laughed out loud. For new docs or non-MDs here, the bait and switch there is to then offer much less due to your "lesser qualifications". You'll never find someone who would rate the full amount.

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  91. Just graduated Rad Tech school, going to interview for a $40k job (but the hours are super fantastic!)No debt. One of the best paying gigs in Atlanta is PRN @ $28 per hour, prominent hospital, but hours not guaranteed.

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  92. Equine exclusive veterinarian, $70k with 8 years experience. $130K students loans, all from vet school. I work 55+ hours, 6 days a week. Ugh. Should have become an engineer.

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  93. Interesting. $150K/yr, student loans down to ~77K after 7 years of postgraduate training and 3 years as a subspecialty attending. I'm getting the fuzzy end of the lollypop, I know, but it's academia.

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  94. $60,000 as a newly minted Registered Dietitian, I have $7000 in debt from my undergraduate degree.

    I am planning on paying it off in full in the next few months as I am applying to medical school currently and hopefully will being in fall 2014.

    My state offers a tuition waiver for medical students who agree to work in a rural area for 5 years after residency. I plan on taking advantage of that opportunity.

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  95. Research physicist, newly minted PhD, private sector: $90k. No student debt.

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  96. Implementation Project Manager in the Software Industry - 90K per Year
    SL debt - 15K so far... working on my Bachelors.

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  97. Private Piano Instructor with bachelors and masters degrees in my field: 20K no bonuses, benefits or debt.
    Husband in med school. No debt.

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  98. Pediatrics, first year resident in Spain 28K per year...

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  99. orthopaedic surgeon, academic medical center, tenure-track, southeast US large level 1 trauma center, just out of fellowship: $300K + $1K/night for trauma call (avg 1 night/week of call.) student loan debt $185K.

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  100. Licensed Master Social Worker (counselor). Masters degree. 100,000 in student loans (half from grad school). Pay for clinical work: $33,000...with a 50 hr work week. Currently work in random non clinical job 24,000... with a 35 hr work week. Poorer but happier. I knew social work is low paying. Most clincians make $40 a year...the lucky state ones make $55. Maybe I should work on a fishing boat. ~Kristen

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  101. Public school teacher, 10th year teaching, Master's degree, $50,000/ yr.

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  102. Late but figured I'd post anyway. Registered x-ray tech about $52k/year, full time. Call and overtime on top of that. Not too shabby for 3 years of school. No student loans.

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  103. RN, BSN - Cardiac Cath Lab in CA - with call, made $101,000.00 last year.

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